By Julie Davidson, Fort Worth Texas
My name is Julie and I am 26 years old. I have remained fairly quiet since being vaccinated by Gardasil because talking about the damage it has done is very difficult. The pain inside that it has caused is so extreme that it has been easier for me to try to forget Gardasil ever existed. For the past two years, I have tried to pretend that my life was not stolen from me and to forget that I was poisoned. Unfortunately, I can’t forget because every day I am reminded when I wake up that I am living a real-life nightmare. I have chosen to speak out because every day I learn of another girl suffering unexplainable health problems. Her diagnosis is to be told she is crazy or that there is no way to help her. What is the link between me and thousands of these girls? Gardasil.
I see a stranger when I look back to the girl I was before Gardasil. This vaccination literally changed my life in every single way possible. In some ways, I’m glad that I’m not that same girl. I now have more appreciation for those who deal with debilitating health issues. Instead of passing by someone in a wheelchair without a second thought, I say hello and then I cry. I cry because I know the struggles they go through, and I cry because I know how few others show that they care. I have learned who my true family and friends are. I have also learned the value of researching the truth and not instinctively trusting medicine. Mostly, I have learned the true value of health because without it we have nothing. Other than those few things, I am extremely saddened that the girl I used to be was stolen from me. I was once a very healthy and active girl, full of energy. I was a personal trainer and loved all things associated with health and fitness. I yearned to do anything outdoors and all that is adventurous. I was a free spirit who craved the beauty of life in every way. At the age of 23, I had many dreams and was excited for the future.
Gardasil Plus Tetanus Recommended While Battling a Sinus Infection – Why Did I Listen to My Doctor?
On March 26, 2011, still at age 23, I went to the doctor for a sinus infection. At that time, he thought it would be wise to give me the Gardasil and Tetanus vaccine. Immediately afterwards, I had my regrets because I felt strange, and I realized it did not make sense to get vaccinated while my immune system was already busy fighting a sinus infection. I remember calling my mom, scared and crying, that something bad had happened – I guess my intuition was right. In the days following the shots, I developed extreme fatigue. It became difficult to perform daily tasks. I was lightheaded all of the time and blacked out often. I also developed pelvic pain, nausea, vomiting, loss of appetite and a 30lb weight loss within two months. It became difficult for me to perform well at my job as a personal trainer because I constantly felt like I had the flu. I called in to work sick often because I thought that I actually was battling something like the flu. By July, things escalated very quickly. I had severe chest pain that shot all the way down my left arm and heart arrhythmias. I had three episodes where my whole body tingled and went numb. By this point, I knew I had something serious, but I could have never imagined how serious it was going to get.
Post Gardasil Paralysis and Central Nervous System Damage
August 6th, 2011 I woke up in bed and went to stand up…and I fell to the ground. On the ground, I realized I was unable to move my left leg. A few days later, the same thing happened to my right leg. Both of my legs were paralyzed and I was unable to stand or walk. I was admitted to the hospital where I stayed for 10 days. I was tested in every way imaginable with two spinal taps, CT scans, MRIs of the brain and spine, an echocardiogram, an abdominal scan and tons of blood work. Doctors were unsure what I had – so I was treated with a high dose of steroids and then sent home in no better condition than when I arrived. By September, I woke up unable to move anything below my head – besides my right arm. I was paralyzed from the neck down. We went to another emergency room where I stayed for a week. I went through more extensive testing and was once again told by doctors that they did not know what I had. They set me up as an outpatient with a neuromuscular specialist and discharged me again in no better condition than when I arrived.
This was the beginning of my two year journey with specialists. I have now seen countless neurologists, a neuromuscular specialist, multiple rheumatologists, an infectious disease specialist, a neuroimmunologist and a neurophysiologist. The only discoveries so far have been a positive Rheumatoid Factor, positive ANA Titer, elevated SED rate and elevated CK – all tests pointing to inflammation in my body and that my immune system is not functioning correctly. In addition to these positive tests, I also was diagnosed with an overactive sphincter. Why would a once healthy 23 year old all of the sudden develop an overactive bladder along with unexplainable neurological problems if there was no root cause?
The rheumatologists and neurologists bounced me back and forth to each other for quite a while – each specialty claiming the other specialty would be more capable of diagnosing. Finally, I had a rheumatologist and a neurophysiologist work together to try and help me. The neurophysiologist and rheumatologist suspected transverse myelitis based on examination and my symptoms that showed an upper motor neuron problem. They explained that the inflammation that shows on my tests is most likely coming from damage to my brain and/or spinal cord. I was told there is nothing to do about this except time. To this day, none of my damage or symptoms can be explained.
The Array of Symptoms Post Gardasil
My symptoms since the Gardasil vaccination are: Paralysis, gait disturbances, paresthesia, hypersensitivity to sound and touch, whole-body shakes, tremors, stiffness and pain in joints, feet and hands turning purple and blue, adrenal insufficiency, endocrine problems, weight loss, nausea, vomiting, hyperventilation, uncontrollable laughing or crying, low blood sugar, sensitivity to smell and chemicals, hot/cold intolerance, loss of appetite, pelvic pain, overactive bladder, chest pain, chest palpitations, shortness of breath, swollen glands, memory loss and memory gaps, confusion, hair loss, lightheadedness, blackouts, and a fatigue so extreme that it is hard to do simple daily tasks.
My physical symptoms have been tough to deal with, but the emotional and mental turmoil that all of this has put me through has been even harder to deal with. The once free spirit is now afraid of life. I’m afraid that if I drive, I may fall asleep at the wheel because of how confused and fatigued I can get. I’m also afraid to drive or be alone because my legs may stop working. I’m afraid of going to any social events or traveling because of germs. I get sick at a minimum of once a month with a cold or virus, and every time I get sick it sets my progress back at least a month. I was once very independent, but I am now completely dependent on my husband. I was once full of energy but now I fatigue taking a shower. The girl who once craved adventure and anything outdoors is now afraid to go outside due to newly developed severe allergies. When I get allergies, it flares up my already overactive immune system, and all of my symptoms come on stronger.
That is not even the most painful part. The most difficult and painful thing to deal with is to think about all of the things I could be doing with my life if I were not ill. Maybe I would have finished school, started my own personal training business, or even started a family with my husband. I watch everyone else live out their lives while I sit at home sick every day. Some people are making their dreams come true, and, unfortunately, some are wasting the precious gift they were given. I crave life every day, but I am unable to live it right now because of how fatigued and weak I am. Gardasil has placed me in a jail inside my own body. I no longer dream of the future because I don’t know if my body will ever allow me to make those dreams come true.
But You Don’t Look Sick
As I fight to get better, I can’t count how many times I have been told that I don’t look sick. I just choose to not show the ugly side of the illness to most. I can assure you that I suffer daily along with thousands of other girls. We are alone because we are not understood. We all suffer in silence because we are told that we do not look sick, that there is no way to help, it’s in our heads, or we come across those that don’t even want to hear or believe us because we do not have a “label” to our illness. I, along with many others, have lost friendships during the time I needed friends the most. Some family relationships have even become strained due to lack of understanding. Those I have met after I got sick will never know the real me trapped under illness. My husband has not even gotten to experience life with the woman he knows he married. He spends his days taking care of me instead of living newlywed bliss. Gardasil stole that from us.
Trying to Heal Post Gardasil
Today I eat, breath and sleep focused on trying to heal. I live in a bubble to make sure that nothing sets me back from my progress so that one day I may have a future. The only type of specialist that has helped me practices natural and functional medicine. My strict diet and supplement program has helped me to walk again after two years in a wheelchair, but I still struggle with many symptoms daily. In January of 2014, I plan to work with a Homeopath to detox the vaccine out of my system with CEASE therapy.
I chose to share my story after two years because I can no longer sit back and watch beautiful lives be destroyed by something that was meant to protect. I can only hope and pray that all of this happened to me for a reason. If my story has not convinced you or someone else against the shot, I hope at least I have convinced you to do more research before making that choice. The research will speak for itself. My story is my reality because I was not warned and I did not research. I hope and pray that this story finds you in time to protect yourself or your loved ones from the Gardasil vaccination.
You r brave i love you. Wish you 110% health and know your answers r exactly where you look for them: In alternative medicine and in focusing your mind. All the best to your little family, i also as you, want to see you living your dreams you r beautiful.
Hi Julie
I have a read your story with interest and am sorry to hear of your troubles,
I would like to bring to your attention of a therapy called the Chiren Dr Johan Boswinkle biontology.com will give you details and there are practioners all over america
I can also see by your symptoms that you have a electron spin inversion that has occured with the vaccine damage some details below
I hope this can help you in your quest to regain your health back
Best of luck paul
Electron Spin Inversion
A danger to your health
Many people suffer these days from chronic fatigue, also called Myalgic
Encephalomyelitis(M.E.), or Fibromyalgia.
There does not seem a cause for it, at least not one that can easily be
found by the medical profession.
There are theories that it is caused by a virus. Some experts claim it is the
Coxsackie virus, others claim it is caused by the Epstein-Barr virus.
But they remain theories.
The two viruses can definitely cause a lot of problems, but chronic fatigue
does not seem to be one of them.
Of course those viruses may be found in those who have chronic fatigue,
but they may not be there as the causal factor, but as a result.
The helicobacter bacteria is often regarded as a possible cause of stomach
ulcers, but is not. The two are often found together, but cause and effect
have been confused.
The same thing applies to smoking and lung cancer or heart and vascular
diseases. ‘Specialists’ say smoking is the cause of those illnesses. Again,
they often go together, but not in a cause-effect relationship.
Lung cancer, heart and vascular diseases, and smoking are all a result of
the same thing , namely stress.
You get stress because you are not capable of doing the things you need
to do or think you have to do them. You may do them on will power alone.
Will power is often seen as something very positive, but it does not have
to be like that. If it is not coupled to being stark and powerful with a lot of
drive, then it is useless. Then will power takes energy of which you do not
have enough anyway. This will power causes stress, which takes away
even more energy.
But how can such a thing get into motion at all?
We hear ever more of the chronic fatigue syndrome. More and more
people seem to suffer from it. It definitely is a civilisation problem.
But what is the main cause? It is electron spin inversion. What is this?
Every atom has its own nucleus and around the nucleus turn the
electrons. Just like the planets turn around the sun.
Every planet also turns around its own axis, so do the electrons.
If one has an electron spin inversion, those electrons start turning the
other way around their own axis.
This event is very detrimental to the body. The first symptoms are:
a) you are tired even after a good night sleep and
b) you get ever more environmental allergies.
If this is the case, people are absolutely therapy resistant. They will not
react positively on any therapy. They may react the opposite way on
medicine, on massage, on acupuncture, on homeopathy, simply on
everything.
Their body works against itself. It does not absorb any nutrients anymore.
Simply nothing will work or works the other way.
All kinds of things that they used to enjoy, are not enjoyable anymore.
Those people often become electro sensitive, meaning that a TV or a
computer puts them down.
This electron spin inversion is always caused by an external magnetic
field. It can be electro magnetic or geo-magnetic, meaning it can be
produced by electrical appliances or wires or by disturbances in the field of
the earth.
Electro magnetic fields
In our present civilisation we are confronted with more and more
appliances: TV’s, computers, stereo sets, clock radio’s, electric stoves,
waterbeds etc. Furthermore we have the power cables( also of trams,
trains and trolley busses) and the high voltage cables.
All these appliances and wires create a huge magnetic field. And this field
attacks the body.
If the body is strong it might be able to resist or is not affected by it. But
if it gets weakened by a simple cold or by an emotional shock, then the
field is suddenly strong enough and gets a hold on the body and it is like a
terrier, it does not let go. Then the magnetic field stops the electrons and
pulls them the other way round.
You might not be aware that you are in such a magnetic environment.
Television sets, computers etc. do not radiate much at the front. But at
the back and sides !!! The magnetic field radiation at the back of a
computer is 100 times stronger than at the front. With a TV it is the same.
So you might be living in the field of the computer of your colleagues or
your neighbours. Magnetic fields cannot be stopped by a wall, they go
right through it. Have you ever checked where your neighbours have put
their computer or TV??
Beds are also a big source of spin inversion.
In the first place there is the clock radio. It gives out a large magnetic
field and especially when you are asleep it can do a lot of damage.
Clock radio’s are the main cause of migraine. About 50% of all migraine
disappears when people put the clock radio at least 1,2 meters away from
their beds.
The other big source of spin inversion in beds are the spring mattresses
and even worse the box springs and waterbeds.
3000 nT
The body can handle a difference in the magnetic field that it is exposed
to up till 3000 nT (nanoTesla).
The springs that are in a bed are all made of metal and all have a positive
and negative pole. The mattress manufacturer , however, does not look
which spring has its positive pole on the top and which spring has its
negative pole on top. If it were all equal it would do a lot less damage.
But it is not. By one spring having its positive end up and the other
springs the negative pole, we create a difference in the magnetic field.
And the more appliances( clock radio’s, TV’s. radio’s, computers) there are
in the bedroom, the more magnetized the springs become and the
stronger the difference and the more chance on a spin inversion.
Box spring mattresses: worse. There we have two springs above each
other, thereby amplifying in positive or negative way or neutralising
magnetic fields.
Sleeping on a box spring mattress is almost a guarantee on a electron
spin inversion.
Waterbeds have a huge electrical heater under the bed. Its magnetic
field is enormous.
Chairs.
I have been on occasion called in to test an electricity company that was
worried about some of its employees who got sick the moment they
turned up for work, and there was nothing physical or psychological that
doctors could find. I found that it was the chair on which those people sat.
The chair had two metal armrests . Those armrests had opposite polarity
and there was a field difference of 9000 nT from one side to the other
side. The field goes right through the body and the body cannot handle
such a difference. We changed chairs and the problem was solved.
Geomagnetic fields
We all know that the earth has a magnetic field. This field gets temporarily
disturbed by the sunspots or solar flares. When this occurs, we see
earthquakes, volcanic eruptions, suicides, a four fold increase in heart
attacks and a ten fold increase in traffic accidents.
But I do not want to talk about this now.
This field is a grid. And on this grid there are a lot of disturbance spots.
The human being can easily handle these disturbances.
Sometimes an underground water stream or an old mineshaft creates
such a problem that our body cannot handle it. But there are other, more
common problems.
We add to those disturbances by our building methods, especially
reinforced concrete.
Reinforced concrete has a lot of iron bars in it. These iron bars are highly
magnetic and all have their positive and negative pole. If the
manufacturers would place all the iron bars in such a way that we would
have an equalized field there would be no problem. But they do not pay
attention to it. So we have a similar problem as with the springs in the
bed. There is then a disturbing geo-magnetic field that causes the body to
spin the wrong way.
There are more things wrong with our buildings which can also cause spin
inversion, like the places where water or sewage pipes run, the floor
heating system, places where the electricians put the wires, the meter
cupboard.
All simply because they do not know how much damage our ‘comfort’
causes our body.
High voltage tension wires
The high voltage tension wires that run through the country also cause
spin inversion. The range of such a field is about 1 mile to either side of
the wire. Average tension on these wires is 360.000 Volt.
In some places in Europe there are already wires of 720.000 Volt.
Since magnetic fields decrease over distance, there is not much danger if
you live 1 mile away. But the closer you get to the wire itself, the higher
the risk on electron spin inversion.
Magnetic beds or mats
A lot of shops and dealers sell magnets or magnetic beds, inlays for shoes
etc. in order to let you feel better. Generally this does work. You feel
better, but you are not. In fact you are worse. What happens?
Our body evolved in a field of about 0,5 Gauss, the earth magnetic field.
Even a little horseshoe magnet has a strength of about 28.000 Gauss,
which is 56.000 times stronger than the field in which the body feels well.
This causes maximum stress to the body. The body reacts with the
production of endorphins. Endorphins are the body’s own morphine. These
endorphins make you numb, you do not feel anything anymore, therefore
also not your problems and so you feel ‘better’. Pains go away.
But in actual fact you are destroying the body’s own immune system by
paralysing it. In fact you may be creating your own auto-immune disease,
because high endorphin levels are characteristic for all auto immune
diseases. An aspirin does the same thing, as does marihuana. It makes
the body produce endorphins. Production is controlled by the pituitary
gland and carried out by all the nerves in the body. Have you ever asked
yourself how an aspirin exactly knows where the pain is? Well, it does not.
It simply disturbs the pituitary gland, which instructs ALL the nerves to
produce endorphins.
At the same time you get rid of your pains, you might create a spin
inversion., which brings other, possibly more serious diseases.
What to do about it?
Can we do something about the problem? Yes, we can.
In the first place I have to inform you that unfortunately the electron spin
inversion is pure physics. Not chemistry. So the medical profession,
although ever more working with physics is not trained to look at these
things nor are they able to by lack of suitable instruments.
A lot of electro- acupuncturists have such devices with which they could
detect a spin inversion, but they often lack knowledge. Far less therapists
have the possibility and knowledge to correct a spin inversion. It only
takes two minutes. And after those two minutes your life might look very
different, as many people have already experienced. A woman who had
not left her house in twelve years and had numerous environmental
allergies, was totally healed after those 2 minutes. I could give you
numerous experiences in which so called miraculous healings have taken
place.
Leukaemia is a disease which in 100% of the cases is due to a spin
inversion.
How can you test if someone has a condition of electron spin
inversion?
There are a few ways.
With a device for electro acupuncture according to Voll(EAV), whereby you
measure the acupuncture points.
There are 3 meridians which react most immediate on a spin inversion and
they are the Triple Warmer, Heart and Circulation meridians. Other
meridians might react too, but not always.
Normally when measuring the readings are steady or show a slow drop.
When a body is suffering from spin inversion, most of the points on the
Fingers will show a sharp drop.
Healthy reading
Disturbance present
Spin inversion
If one sees such a drop further diagnosis is of no use, because bodies in
this condition cannot be diagnosed properly.
Some times, unfortunately ever more, people show no disturbance at all.
This is frequently the case with M.E.
They show no disturbance even with a spin inversion. Everything seems in
order.
Those people have a very high production of endorphines, the body’s own
morphine. High endorphin production is characteristic for auto-immune
diseases. An pain killer does the same thing. Any aspirine causes all
nerves of the body to produce endorphins. That is why the pain
disappears no matter where the pain sits. Cardiologists also prescribe
aspirine as blood thinner.
The aspirine caused the body to produce endorphins. The endorphins relax
the body,after which the bloodvessels become wider, and then the blood
has more space and becomes thinner.
That is why in cases of ME nobody can find anything because all
disturbances are suppressed.
In these cases the spin inversion is not detected, but if those people do
not react on therapy or adversely react, then they MUST have a spin
inversion.
Another way is with kinesiology. If you do the muscle test, your muscles
should become weaker when you take sugar in your hand.
If the muscle becomes stronger with sugar, then you have a spin
inversion. Sugar is a left spinning substance.
Correction of electron spin inversion
There are a few ways to correct a spin inversion.
1) with bioresonance or photon resonance device
2) with an EAV device
3) with kinesiology
4) with chiropractic
I will now describe the easiest and in my opinion the most effective way,
through a photon resonance instrument.
Your EAV specialist, Kinesiologist or Chiropractor will tell you how the
other ways work and what he/she can do for you.
Many chiropractors are also kinesiologists or EAV therapists, so they will
have various ways of doing things. The important thing is that they pay
attention to this phenomena, because it happens in about 25% of the
patients that are coming for treatments in the about 1000 practices where
I have trained practitioners.
Correction by means of bio- or photonresonance
The treatment is very easy when you have the right instrument to do it
with.
The instrument needed has to be a bioresonance or photonresonance
device like the Health Angel StarLight.
You take a drop of blood from the finger and put it on a paper tissue.
(With blood it works always immediately; you may also take saliva, but
then results are mixed.)
You put it in a cup connected with the input of the device.
In this cup sits a copper or brass spiral, which turns clockwise downwards.
This blood has a 100% resonance with the patient, because it is his or her
own. That is why an absolute minimum quantity of blood is sufficient.
Because of the spiral this blood gets the right spin.
Then you give the patient two electrodes in the hand and let therapy run
for two minutes.
Then the spin inversion is gone. When you measure again, you will find all
readings a lot higher, the sharp drops have disappeared.
Subsequently you can continue with diagnosis and therapy.
If people have a suspected endorphin production, this therapy works
equally well and the endorphin production might come to an end.
The body produces namely endorphins when it is under extreme stress, be
it physical, chemical, emotional or otherwise.
Due to the removal of the spin inversion the stress might disappear.
Endorpin production is under supervision of the pituitary gland, the center
of discrimination in the body. It has to discriminate what is good and what
is bad. If that gland does not work properly, you have a problem, because
you feel better but are in fact worse (Joggers High and a Marihuana High
are also caused by extreme endorphine production).
But can we avoid it from happening again?
In order to avoid a spin inversion happening again we have to look for the
cause.
It is not always in the home or in your office or work place.
Sometimes you get suddenly tired when you go into a shopping mall.
There are so many disturbing magnetic fields there , that is enough to
make even the most healthy person weak. And that could be the cause. If
that is the case you do not have to worry about getting it again, unless
you go again to that shopping mall, when you feel weak.
(the important thing is that you listen to your body)
You have to change your environment, put the clock radio further away
from your bed or replace your bed and mattress with items that do not
contain any metal, change the set up of your computers or TV. You simply
have to look at what could be the cause-
But the real cause is of course YOU. You should be able to with stand
those fields. That is only possible if you get clean, emotional and physical.
The strength of our body’s own magnetic field is dependent on the energy
that we have available. The speed at which the electrons turn is also
dependent on the energy that they have. The more energy, the faster
they turn. And the faster they turn , the more difficult it is for such an
external magnetic field to get a hold on them.
So in that case we have to accumulate energy. We can do that by
eliminating a lot of disturbances in our bodies. The cleaner we are, the
more energy we have. We have to be open for the light. If we are not
open to that, we remain in the dark ages with all the consequences.
Imagine yourself as a tree. The insects come and are a real plague to you.
Why are they there? Where do they suddenly come from? Why you? Why
not an other tree? The reason is: because you attract them.
What is it that attracts those bugs? Your vibrations. If you were tuned just
a bit higher, those insects would not have been attracted to you.
You happen to vibrate at the same low level as the insects. It is simply
love at first sight.
Those insects are a sign, a sign that you (the tree) have fallen ill, that you
have to make your immune system stronger. You have to grow out of it!
If the cause is geomagnetic, in other words caused by a disturbance in the
earth magnetic field, you can try out putting various metal things under
your bed, couch and/or chairs. There are various professionals( dowsers)
who will advise you in this respect.In my experience this prevention
method works only if the disturbance is caused by the so called ley lines(
underground streams or currents).
If the cause is geomagnetic, but is caused by the construction of the
building, the mattress couch or chairs themselves, this method will have
no effect. It is always better to have your furniture without metal.
In that case I advise to reorganise your furniture and try that first, before
acquiring all new things. It is extremely important to know what exactly is
causing the spin inversion. Then measures can be taken.
If the cause is electro-magnetic, you will have to look where cables are
running and whether the earth connection is really connected to the earth,
(if not, a huge electrical field can be generated, equal to that under high
voltage cables) and where appliances stand. If they are opposite each
other they generate a huge magnetic field between them. If your TV or
computer is standing against a wall and on the other side of the wall is
your bed, then remove computer or bed.
If you are living under high voltage( 360.000 Volt) cables (their magnetic
field is 1500 yards to either side of the cable), then the best option is to
move.
50% of all cases of migranes are caused by electrical clock radio’s, which
stand on the night stand. A TV in your bedroom radiates also about 16
feet away. Especially in the USA where almost all mattresses are filled
with springs, this is a very dangerous thing. Through the magnetic field
generated by the TV, the springs get magnetized and the effects will be
far worse.
Shape up or ship out
You have to raise your vibrations to get out of resonance with those bugs.
If you have it done with insecticide , your immune system does not
improve. It gets weaker, the vibrations are getting even lower and now
the waiting is only for the next series of plagues. They will give you
another chance on improving your immune system. Take it or leave it.
Most people leave it and take antibiotics or some other drug. Trees get
more pesticides. We simply do not take the time to be ill.
Those pesticides weaken the tree even further. Nature first sends insects,
then other bugs, then fungi, then bacteria and viruses to try to get you to
DO something about your system. If you do not, your system will
degenerate ever further. Nature sends all those creatures to clean up the
weak: shape up or ship out.
If you shape up, if you increase your vibrations, you go out of resonance
with the bugs, the bacteria, the viruses. They will not even see you.
Everything is based on resonance. If your vibrations are so low that they
match the vibrations of bacteria, you will attract them: Like attracts like.
Healthy people have high vibrations. Every disturbance , whether it is
emotional, mental, physical, lowers those vibrations, because the
disturbance is of a lower vibration itself. The light that is emitted by all the
cells gets chaotic in stead of coherent, thereby losing its capability to
communicate properly.
Responsibility
You are the only one responsible for your body, for your life You cannot
place that burden on the shoulders of medical doctors, government,
churches, trade unions, insurance companies etc.
We have all been led to believe that they could take that responsibility,
but now we are finding out that they cannot and have never been able to.
Take the responsibility back into your own hands.
That is going to be accompanied by fear, simply to trust yourself. Do not
go by what you think, because in your brain is only what others have
programmed you to think. Go by your intuition, by what you feel.
Do not confuse this feeling with emotions. They are totally different.
No offense, but WTF??!! This is all wrong! First of all, when you mention the word “vaccine” please step back behind the yellow line!! I only protested the Hep B for an infant and my RN sister got quiet, then political/pharnaceutical. Excuse me!!!! Learn from what you see on the internet!
You remind me so much of my daughter. The daily struggles are real. The pain is real. Don’t let anyone tell you it’s not. Keep fighting to become stronger and win this battle. The side of my daughter you get to see, no she does not look sick. But I watch her sleep, cry in pain, and watch her heartbreak because she cannot be the woman she wants to be. God bless you. I pray that you will find peace and strength and that soon you all will be healed. Xoxo
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Please send me a short message on YouTube.
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God bless you!
So sad for this beautiful young lady I will pass this link to as many people as i know to educate them of these dangers. Good luck Julie! Regards Pedro…
I applaud you for having the courage to share your very personal story. Awareness is so important. Sadly, your story is an all too familiar one as I am the mother of an injured girl. My hope is that in time you will heal and that changes will be made so that this will not happen to another girl.
Julie, it’s just terrible what orthodox medicine has put you through, to put it mildly. You probably already know this, in case you don’t, you need a very nutritious diet and plenty of fresh air and clean water (no fluoride etc.) to help you recover. Food like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sI5TFbL4t8Y
If vaccines were just a placebo then this phenomenally profitable $30 billion business would just be a gigantic fraud, but add in all the gunk and it’s sinister beyond words.
A flavour of the deceit from ‘ Assault on the Species’ by Patrick Rattigan:
“During World War II there were 12 recorded cases of tetanus, of which, 4 were vaccinated.
Persons wishing to contract tetanus, or to endow their offspring with it, should first collect samples from the soil, dustbins, sewers etc. This should then be sent for analysis to determine the presence of tetanus spores. When the confirmed spores are returned, a deep gash should be made in the arm into which the spores should be placed, the skin pinched to trap the spores and the arm bandaged to exclude the air. Persons not immune to tetanus should then contract the disease.
As the above practice is widespread, it is understandable why every child and every hospital case involving broken skin needs to be jabbed routinely with a vaccine whose side effects include seizures, high fever, Guillane-Barre Syndrome, fatal anaphylactic shock, neurological damage, abscess, inner ear damage, myelin damage etc.” http://www.whale.to/vaccine/rattigan2.html
Thank you for speaking out so open and congratulations to decide to find a homeopath, who is applying CEASE therapy, too. I have seen many vaccine injuries, some of them after HPV with quite similar symptoms as experienced by you. The correct homeopathic remedy will enable the detox and CEASE is a valuable tool for us homeopath. I wish you well and good recovery.
Hear, hear! CEASE therapy reverses vaccine damage. Some of the symptoms sound like it may be more than just the vaccine (or the vaccine/sinus infection). CEASE therapy is incredibly effective. Please don’t give up! It sounds like you have what it takes to heal.
Last night I viewed a TV prograjm on statins. They interviewed a number of honest doctors one of whom called the behaviour of drug companies an organised crime. The difference between these good doctors and the not so good ones was that they were able to observe and see and honesty report on the documented ineffectiveness and real dangers of these pharma products. The product inserts for all pharma products list the observed serious reactions, organ by organ. The Sanofi Pasteur Trip[edia (DPT) vaccine i.a. lists autism as one of the serious reacions observed in the post-marketing studies.
I urge everybody contemplating talking any pharma products, and including HPV and other vaccines, to read their product inserts, easily accessable on the internet (look up the longest versions). Your Drs have the MIMS Annual (or PDR in the US), a huge book, the exhaustive list of all pharma products, and ask him/her to read you the relevant pages. It may be good for them, too, to read and learn from them. I wonder how many would still recommend and administer such dangerous products to people. If they refuse to look up the information, or gloss over the serious reactions, you may simply use your option to walk out.
You could also look up individual research articles, published in reputable medical journals, many of which are actually honest.
centerforhomeopathy.com (I very highly recommend)
also homeovet.net –for animals
Hello, So sorry to hear all that you have been through and experiencing. Your body – immune system was overpowered , from many directions & badly damaged. Western medicine has little to nothing to offer for this. You have metabolic instability, mitochondrial damage (that forever flu feeling & weakness), freaky nonspecific inflammatory processes throughout …most likely & which after time begins to affect organs. Do a little research into systemic capillary leak syndrome or leaky gut syndrome. FYI: If you can afford it Mayo Clinic has treatment for it. OR: The gut is the window to the immune system and the key to your recovery. If possible find a Naturopathic Doctor who also has a medical degree to get your body back in balance. They are hard to find but are out there. And check http://www.gapsdiet.com ***but it is not an easy fix/process may take up to 2 yrs of committed dietary discipline to heal. Wish you well! Hope this is of help. Keeping you and your family in my thoughts & praying for a speedy recovery for you. Best wishes!!
It’s amazing how so many vaccine injured – whether toddlers with autism or teenagers post-Guardasil – find more help from natural, alternative, functional, and/or homeopathic medicine than from mainstream medicine. What a crying shame that mainstream medicine is too concerned with denying vaccine injury to develop approaches for treating vaccine injury.
Wishing you all the very best – may you gradually get better with time and with good treatments!
So glad that diet and supplements have helped you to walk again!
I am inspired by your strength, Julie, and am sending prayers over the miles that your condition will improve and you will once again enjoy vibrant health. I am a holistic/integrative healthcare practitioner and just wanted to recommend a modality that you may or may not be familiar with, that I wholeheartedly believe can help you along your journey towards healing. It’s called BodyTalk and there are practitioners offering it all over the world. If you’re interested in learning more about this therapy or finding a practitioner in your area, you can do so via the IBA website: http://www.bodytalksystem.com
Thank you for sharing your story so that others may be educated about the dangers of vaccination. Sending love…
~S.A.
Try Zeolite it is a heavy metal chelator. Also a high anti oxidant diet -google a dr who healed herself from multiple sclerosis. She describes her neuro specific health approach which reversed her MS. Very valuable health advice. Good luck.
So awful!! To speed healing up considerably, take 1600 IU of a Natural Vitamin E per day for 6 weeks and then maintain with 800 IU. for brain and autoimmune repair. Also 200 mg per day of CO Q10 for two months to oxygenate all cells, the equivalent of 2 Tbsp. per day of Flax Seed OIL for 3 months for every inflammatory issue/brain repair/autoimmunity (refrigerate) & 100 mg daily for 3 months of Vit. B-6 for nerve repair. Always buy high quality supplements that are guaranteed to have been quality controlled.
Hi Julie,
Your story is truly shocking and I wanted to remind you that you are a very strong woman for putting yourself out there and living life as best as you possibly can. I too went through a very difficult year that ruined my first year of marriage with my husband and our wedding day and also our honeymoon. Doctors had no idea what was going on. They are still pretty clueless. Alternative medicine gave my life back. I spent a lot of days trapped in bed unable to function or eat. Weirdly enough I too lost 30 poinds in 2 months that happened right before our wedding day. I learned a lot from reading a book called Brain of Fire by Sassanah Cahalan. She become ill out of no where with an autoimmune disease. Neurologically she was completely destroyed and she wasnt exactly sure what the root cause was but her body was fighting against itself. It’s a very eye opening book that I feel like you would benefit greatly from. Although I didnt have what she had I did however learn to cope woth my symptoms after reading it because I felt a true connection to her and what she was going through. It’s very well written as the author was a journalist from the New York post. She lost her job in the middle of her being sick because of how dibilitated she was. She lives in Ny and maybe can get you in touch with the doctors that helped her there. She had a team work with her as well.
I wish you all the best in getting better. I’m sorry I dont have any medical advice as I am not a doctor but I can sympathize with you and tell you that I understand your frustration.
-Joanna
So sorry to hear all this! I too am in the same boat unfortunately. Gardasil has ruined my life! I had the vaccine 6 years ago and it’s been a very slow onset of symptoms with it really getting worse a year ago. I had every symptom and it sucked! I went from having a very successful career to having my mom help me do the most simple tasks.
It makes me sick to my stomach that most of my doctors still don’t believe all my conditions are HPV vaccine related. The doctors just keep giving pain meds, anti-nausea meds, and muscle relaxers because they don’t know how to help.
Fortunately, someone has helped me recover. Sticking with my strict diet, supplements, hyperbaric oxygen therapy, and infrared saunas, I’m able to work and have some what of a normal life. For the most part, my symptoms are gone with the exception of nerve damage/tingly/numb feeling in my left hand and foot and migraines. In the last month, my migraines are getting better. (I have been using Botox for migraines which helps for the most part). If you’d like to compare notes, please feel free to reach out!
Tara, please try CEASE therapy for vaccine damage. It truly works miracles!
My heart goes out to you with your Struggles <3 As my Granddaughter has the Same Vaccine injury as well. She goes through what you are. And some different things as well, with Strokes and Seizures too. Not to mention Many other things. My heart Cries for All that you Young Women have been ROBBED of. I Pray you WIN Your Fight, Just as I Pray that my Granddaughter WINS Hers too. She is 20 now, but has been fighting this for 5 years, Going from Cheerleader 1 week to Wheelchair the next. It has taken the Largest Toll on Her and the Family. She Speaks out like you to Others. As Gods Vessels and Voice to Others. I Pray People will Start to Educate Before they Vaccinate !! That Can Not be Said Enough !! Too Many Victims like you and Gabi from these Life Stealing Poisons… God Bless You, and Prayers for Complete Recovery and Healing.
Hi Julie,
So sorry to hear your story. But glad that you have had the courage to tell it and to start looking at complementary/alternative ways of healing yourself.
I know that many people have posted ideas to help you. I would like to add my advice to this list if you don’t mind.
Please go and find a BodyTalk Practitioner near you. There are many throughout America and Canada. I am a qualified BodyTalk Practitoner myself, however, I live in the United Kingdom. I feel sure that BodyTalk would definitely help you on the road to recovery.
Their website is: http://www.bodytalksystem.com Good Luck. Elaine x
Thank you for sharing your story. Because of stories like yours I argue with pediatricians all the time about the vaccines I will NOT give my children. Gardasil is at the top of that list!
Please look into “grounding” or “earthing” to help you heal. It is amazing and has helped so many people!
Tracy
A friend just sent me the link to this article and I am in shock. It’s like I am reading my life story for the past 2 years and 2 weeks. I worked in healthcare and having been to Mayo Clinic in Rochester several times I have all of my medical records. I don’t know if what I am experiencing is the same thing, but I do know that before I got sick I did have the Gardasil series of injections and a tetanus booster. My heart aches for you because I know what you are feeling. I know what it feels like to want your life back, to so desperately want to wake up from this nightmare only to watch it get worse. I too have also started transitioning off of conventional medications and using more homeopathic treatments. Thank you for sharing your story!
Thank you all for your encouragaing and helpful comments. I will look into all of your suggestions. To those who have also been injured-I’m so sorry. Lets keep up the fight!
Go to thedoctorwithin.com try the 60 day detox program, this just might be the cure. You can also contact Dr Tim O’shea directly. The testimonials speak for themselves.
Dear Julie,
I recently went through something similar. Not from vaccinations but from other outside chemicals, preservatives and toxins among other misdiagnosis. It has taken me close to 5 years but I feel like a different woman today. I was a healthy, active 29 year old when this began.
I woke up one day about 5 years ago with extreme pain in my arms and could get my arms to function properly. I also had pain in many other joints and parts of my body. I suffered from extreme fatigue and could not get out of bed to cook, clean or go over my daughters homework with her. In fact all I could do was go to the bathroom alone. My boyfriend/ husband helped me to brush my teeth, dress me, make my meals and do all the cleaning as well as worked full time. My doctor, in an absence of conclusion as I seemed healthy; Diagnosed me with Fibromyalgia (which there is no real diagnosis for), it is considered a lack of diagnosis. Over a couple of years I saw specialists, did physical therapy, had a few X-rays and MRI’s but my insurance wouldn’t allow for more discovery. I was extremely depressed and enrolled myself in a chronic pain program where I felt great support. Many of my friends had abandoned me but my boyfriend (now husband) stood by me the whole time. We never believed the Fibromyalgia diagnosis. We believed it was a simple answer to a complex problem, basically something they could say was wrong with me without a real explanation and pushed my out the door with a trial of drugs to try. After a couple of years of nerve medications, antidepressants, muscle relaxers and pain killers, I wasn’t feeling any better. In fact I think all those medications made things worse. But I didn’t give up. I started eating healthier and studying nutrition.Though I felt I was a healthy well educated person to begin with I figured being healthier couldn’t hurt. Slowly my energy increased and I went back to work after moving to San Diego where I also believed that the warmer weather would help me to feel better. I figured it would kill me but I had to try for my own sake as I need some mental and social stimulation. Fortunately through my new job I had great insurance and was able to go in for some more testing since my arm pain had started to act up again. Finally they did a nerve study at UCSD and found that I had a vertebrae out of place in my thoracic spine, thus causing Thoracic Outlet Syndrome – A pinched nerve in my back running down my arms but that wasn’t all. I saw a wonderful Chiropractor which forever changed my life. He led me to seeing a Nutritionist which is when things started to really change. I did several cleanses over the course of year and a half as well as I took some supplements to rid my body of the overgrowth of yeast in my body. Also I took other energizing natural (not synthetic) supplements to boost my immune system and give me natural energy (such as vitamin B & D). With regular Chiropractic and a healthy diet free of preservatives, mostly organic and rich in vitamins I feel so much better. I never imagined that I would feel this good again. So many symptoms seem to have washed down the drain such as IBS, severe depression, chronic pain (even in my feet), insomnia, severe and chronic nausea, sinus issues, somewhat regular bladder infections, chronic muscle spasms, hypersensitivity to sounds, light and chemicals, extreme fatigue, memory loss and the list goes on. Currently my husband and I are expecting our first baby within the month. I never would’ve guessed I would have even tried to get pregnant because of all my issues but I felt so good and I am healthy so we decided to try and we were successful right away. I have now been drug/ medication free for well over a year including birth control and even after breaking part of my back in a car accident last year, I feel better than I did at the beginning of all this. For your sake I hope you find some natural therapists who are willing to do right by you and it sounds like you are. I recommend chiropractic to everyone because that alone can help with allergies as well as boosting your immune system among several other ailments by properly aligning your nervous system. I pray that my story gives you some hope and I wish you the best. Keep up the good work and don’t give up! 🙂
Not many may be aware of it , but the manufacturers of the vaccine may have acted in fraudulent cooperation with the manufacturers of pap smear and HPV detection products . I am a laboratory technician who screens pap smears and I wrote this article on corruption in the field and the same profiteering hanky-panky may apply to the vaccines .
http://meshmedicaldevicenewsdesk.com/featured-articles/pap-smears-a-technican-speaks-out-about-problems-and-profits/
Please share this as the FDA and other government agencies pay no attention .
thank you
Julie, I have a very controversial suggestion for you to check into. Cannibas oil. If you watch “Run From the Cure – the Rick Simpson Story” on Youtube it will give you the background story. If I ever get a sickness or disease this is what I will do, legal or not. I hope you find your way out of this mess and back into wholeness and heath.
Rick Simpson caps doesn’t help with the pain from Gardasil for my daughter Alisa. Smoking marijuana is the only way to relieve the pain. She is never pain free and has been in excruciating pain for six years post Gardasil.
Our community of Heilkunst Homeopaths have been clearing the ill effects from vaccine damage for over 20 years, now.
I never had gardisil but have had all of the same symptoms. The paralysis has been milder, but one of the black hand experiences landed me in the hospital for 5 days on Heparin. My problem was diagnosed as MENS1a; an endocrine system disorder.
Julie, Contact me and come on my radio show twice more than once. My website is “watchmanchronicles.com” I do programs about HPV and many more of their attempts at Population control. I expose many of these attacks that go way beyond just HPV but even the Attack on our American Soldiers and Marines as they are orchestrating the suicides, one way are the vaccines with Nanobots, that are contained in the vaccines and anti-Depressant pills.
HPV
http://watchmanchronicles.com/primary-site/?p=1261
Suicide Conspiracy
http://watchmanchronicles.com/primary-site/?p=304
http://watchmanchronicles.com/primary-site/?p=330
Have you try the Gerson Therapy? is Amazing for Detox.
I think a Dr. Russell Blaylock is the guy I would take one of my family members to see had they befallen victim to one of these M.D. directed vampires. Also, Dr. Edward group could probably help as a detoxification specialist. Good luck!!
Julie, I have watched my daughter deteriorate before my eyes. Like you, the symptoms began within a month of taking the Gardasil shot. Every doctor she sees refuses to believe that her conditions are due to the vaccine. I regret ever having trusted the advice to have her take it. I will not let my other children take it. I come from a family of cancer survivors and victims and thought that I was doing the right thing by my daughter. And now I feel helpless to help her. I watch every day as she struggles. Struggles that she never had literally days before she had the shot. My heart breaks for her and you. I was always a great proponent for vaccines, feeling that the risk was worth the progress in health across the world. But nothing is worth the risk of watching your daughter lose the ability to have a normal life.
Try R Lipoic Acid for pain…I am disabled from chemo…It has helped me to fight the chemical damage…stay strong..you are a sweetheart..
Julie, your story mimics mine, only my reaction was after an influenza vaccine in 1997. I too, knew instantly that I had been “poisoned”. I explained the feeling like “bells and whistles” going off inside of me. I too developed debilitating fatigue, fevers, rashes and swollen lymph nodes. I had western med docs tell me, “you have AIDS or you have cancer, and no one could tell me what happened. No one would verify it was the vaccine. I worked with eastern-minded docs (and fought for 6 months to “get well’. I still believe that I am “not the same” and that my health and well-being was forever affected that day. In addition, I am a nurse and have had to endure ridicule and shaming policies in my workplaces. I have been fired from “big corporate” hospitals because I wouldn’t take an MMR vaccine in 2005. I have never trusted the “studies” on Gardasil, it terrifies me that they are now giving this vaccine to infants and young toddlers. Julie, find a naturopathic MD to help you with detox, have them test you for the MTHFR gene. I believe you, Julie. There are many like us. There will be many more. We must band together to bring real faces to real data. Encourage ALL vaccine reactions to be REPORTED http://vaers.hhs.gov. !!!! Demand that the Vaccine Information Sheets are provided to ALL persons prior to receiving any vaccine, this is already a LAW~ but NOT being followed. It is going to take a “movement” to stop this insanity.
Julie, thank you for your courage and your willingness to share your story with the world. I look forward to hearing of the methods that work to bring you back to a greater state of health.
Hi Julie,
I am very sorry this body and soul murder was done to you!
My brother had “Guillain Barre” syndrome from a yellow fever vaccine in the 1980s.
(Later diagnosed as chronic demyelinating Polyneuropathy). My eldest daughter developed Chronic Fatigue after vaccinations for a student exchange to Sweden and my youngest 2 sons have ADD and autism (BTW-autism symptoms are very like your post vaccination symptoms except in a very small baby it LOOKS like delayed development , high pitched screaming, head banging, etc etc -all because of pain in gut and brain).
So ,we know all about vaccine damage and the complete denial of such by MDs and government.
We just have to keep telling the truth. Their whole myth of vaccines is close to collapse-just see how rabid they have become in mandating and
bullying because so many people are becoming suspicious.
Never give up! We haven’t and my autism son is now recovered ,while my CFS daughter is on a veery strict diet (Ketogenic) and slowly regaining her health
Gd bless you
kerrie
My Daughter had 1st and only dose in the uk 2009 and started with aches, swollen glands, total voice lists for months then seizures and unable to walk, shakes, tremors, fatigue etc etc. Again an athlete like so many. It might sound stupid but the thing that cured her over months was drinking silica rich water (volcanic) . We bought volvic then a fabulous one called Fiji. The silica eats aluminium and she made a miraculous recovery within a year. She was still traumatised a while after but has just started Uni and we have our old Daughter back. Seriously it worked, google the work done at Staffordshire Uni.
Thank you so much for all your comments for Julie, so very much appreciated. I am an administrator of this site and any of you who have also had an injury from the Gardasil vaccine please make contact with me on our web – ask for Freda at info@sanevax.org
I know one or two of you have been in touch with me already, thank you so much. Laura, saw your comment and if you too would like to share your story we would be honoured to do so. Take care.
I am SO SORRY! I UNDERSTAND and want to offer you hope…I believe if anyone can help you…it is my husband who suffered himself from a neurotoxic illness (which is what you have). PLEASE watch some of his videos and you will quickly realize he has answers you need to give your body the best fighting chance of recovering by working at the cellular level AFTER removing the chemical interferences that have STOLEN your life! I am passionate because I have been where your husband is with you. http://www.drpompa.com May God bless you and keep you and may you be encouraged and EXPECT to regain your life at the greatest possible level (I prefer to hope for a complete recovery and I know you will do whatever it takes if it is up to you.) ! I am here to tell you there is hope 🙂
Thank you for sharing your story. Like you, within a few weeks of receiving the vaccine, I was insanely tired. I also developed a strange rash in linear patterns all over my body. From there, I began developing numbness and tingling in my arms and legs. Then I began having difficulty concentrating, my head always felt as though it was above my body. I called my mom to bring me home from college the day that I could no longer navigate stairs.
The problem was that at age 14 (I was 21 when I got the shot), I developed optic neuritis. At the time, something like 70% of women with optic neuritis also went on to develop multiple sclerosis. So initially, everyone thought that I was developing MS. My neurologist was unable to find any lesions on my brain or spine, but was so convinced of my diagnosis that he was ready to treat me without those lesions. My mom, an RN, refused. For years I got MRIs every 6 mos, even after (thankfully) my symptoms had subsided. I still have “weird” moments, but fortunately I have been able to return to mostly normal. My neurologist finally admitted that I had a reaction to Gardasil.
I will keep you in my prayers. Thank you again for sharing.
Your story is expressed so well. You have written about many of my own daughter’s feelings. She feels like you, she tries to hide it, to be normal. It’s not possible. She has lost many friends along the way who do not understand her struggle. I will be sure she reads your story and thank you so much for sharing it, maybe it will inspire my daughter to share hers too.
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My Mother had been diagnosed of (HBV) disease 3 years ago. She had been using the interferon therapy (Peg-interferon + Ribavirin) which adversely affected her hemoglobin level as she is also thalassemic (a side effect of using the interferon therapy). Luckily after stopping the treatment.
I read a book by HEALTH MED LAB about natural cures and he recommends these two things as a natural cure for HEPATITIS disease,Hydrogen Peroxide Therapy and Crocodile Protein Peptide. You can Google both of these to get more info. Also, need to do the cleanses,colon, liver, kidney, gallbladder. Eat organic foods to get the toxins out of your body so your body can overcome the disease itself.This is important. I am not promoting his book, but I feel it is a must read if you want information on how to beat this awful disease. My mother is now HEPATITIS Negative with his help, Anyway, his email : (healthmedlab3@gmail.com) God bless and good luck!
Try GcMAF. It’s cured thousands of Autism victims (similar etiology), it’s harmless and could definitely help you. Forget about insurance coverage though, do your own research and you’ll realize you are on your own when it comes to anything that might inconvenience the vaccine industry and the hapless quack MDs who pay down their huge student loans by looking the other way.
I am not an anti-vax person, but I believe I was injured by HPV. One week after the shot I got muscle pain, then came on nerve pain issues (tingling, burning, etc). I am certain it was the HPV shot. However, all five of my kids got the three shots and are fine. I believe that, like any medication, there is a small number who will be injured by it. It’s a tiny percent given the hundreds of thousands of Gardasil shots given out. Of all the immunizations, this one is the least needed and likely to not be very beneficial. When I view some of these stories, I must remain skeptical. There are some symptoms that couldn’t be caused by immunizations because the mechanism of action doesn’t exist. Without knowing the real medical history of each person we can’t really know if things existed beforehand. In one story I just read, the person said they have to use a CPAP now and had a sleep study a month before the shot so they knew they didn’t have an issue. A critical mind would wonder what this person was experiencing before the shot that would make them need to have a sleep study in the first place. There are hints of pre-existing issues that were likely starting.