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HPV Vaccines and Government Agencies: How valuable is ‘expert’ advice?

September 8, 2013 By Norma 10 Comments

Government Agencies

sanevax-logo-200pxBy Norma Erickson

Every government in the world has some sort of committee established to provide advice on vaccines and vaccination practices to those who establish vaccination policies. Since the recommendations made by these committees are the first step toward making any vaccine part of public health policy, it is time to take a serious look at the quality of advice being offered by these committees. Just how valuable is it?

Let’s take a recent teleconference held by Israel’s Advisory Committee on Infectious Diseases and Inoculations as a case in point. One of the topics scheduled for discussion at this meeting was the proposed introduction of HPV vaccines into Israel’s school inoculation program targeting 14 year-old girls.[1]

Dr. Ron Dagan[2] is Professor of Pediatrics and Infectious Diseases at the Ben-Gurion University of the Negev in Beer-Sheva, Israel, and Director of the Pediatric Infectious Disease Unit at the Soroka University Medical Center, also in Beer-Sheva. An active researcher and international lecturer, Dr. Dagan’s work focuses on new conjugate vaccines. His expert advice to Israel’s Advisory Committee regarding potential HPV vaccine implementation is as follows (translation provided-emphasis added):

We are dealing with injections, some of which given in 3 [separate] doses, which are delivered to teenage girls. Many side effects are to be expected. During the week following the vaccine delivery of the injections many serious events which are not related to the vaccination are expected: fainting, deaths and convulsions/fits. This needs to be taken into account. Even if it is not rational, if these events happen in class they may damage the general reputation of   vaccinations. This is happening all over the world all the time. We have already dealt with a similar issue in relation to the delivery of MMR with TD and Polio and we have accepted the nurse’s proposal to split these between grades 1 and 2. The nurses are suitable to make recommendations to the committee in relation to this issue. In relation to the side effects, we need to be prepared in advance and not simply react after the fact. I propose we consult with the English representatives as to how they’ve gone about this. We must prepare for the delivery of the new vaccine. The nurses need to know they are going about this in the way they are most comfortable with (/have the most control over/familiarity with).

Did anyone participating in this teleconference question Professor Dagan’s expert advice? Did the members of this advisory committee fulfill their obligation to the citizens of Israel by providing the best science-based information available to the Ministry of Health and any others who would be involved in making the decision to target 14 year-old girls for HPV vaccinations, or did they simply accept his statements at face value?

Did Israel’s Advisory Committee on Infectious Diseases and Inoculations ask the following questions?

  1. Professor Dagan, why are fainting, deaths, convulsions and fits ‘expected’ during the week following HPV vaccinations if they are not linked to the vaccine?
  2. Professor Dagan, how was the current rate of these events in 14 year-old girls determined? Can you provide the data on these events for the last year?
  3. If a girl experiences one of the adverse events you mentioned within a short time after HPV vaccination, why is it not logical to at least consider the possibility of a defective batch or perhaps improper storage?
  4. Professor Dagan, should a girl collapse and die in class why would the primary consideration be protecting the general perception and status of HPV vaccinations? Is it not more important to find out what caused the girl’s death?
  5. Professor Dagan, are there any other ‘expected’ adverse events we should look for in the weeks following HPV vaccinations?
  6. Considering the fact that Israel has no system in place to track adverse events after vaccinations, and most countries only have passive reporting systems in place, why is it ‘irrational’ to assume an adverse event occurring shortly after HPV vaccination would be linked to the vaccine?
  7. Professor Dagan, why is it necessary to prepare in advance for adverse events if these ‘anticipated’ events are not linked to the vaccine?
  8. Has Israel had to prepare in advance for adverse events after other vaccines we are currently using?
  9. Professor Dagan, how can we know in advance that these ‘expected’ events like fainting, deaths, convulsions and fits are not related to HPV vaccines? Should these types of events not be investigated to prove they are not linked to the vaccines so we can inform the public of what actually caused the incidents?
  10. Professor Dagan, are you telling us that ‘English representatives’ prepared in advance for anticipated adverse events after Gardasil and/or Cervarix vaccinations?

Since Professor Ron Dagan is an expert he should be able to answer all of these questions and provide scientific documentation to verify his statements without any problem at all. If he is not able to do so, one should question his ‘expert’ status.

Experts and Conflicts of Interest

Was this committee made aware of the fact that in the past 12 months, Professor Dagan[3],[4] has received grants/research support from Berna/Crucell, Binax, GlaxoSmithKline, MedImmune, Merck & Co., Inc., Novartis and Wyeth; consultant fees from Berna/Crucell, GlaxoSmithKline, MedImmune, Merck & Co., Inc., Novartis and Wyeth; and speaker fees from Berna/Crucell, GlaxoSmithKline and Wyeth? Was the committee informed that Dr. Dagan is a shareholder of Protea/NASVAX?

If the committee was informed of these potential conflicts of interest, did they consider the possibility that these facts could have influenced Professor Dagan’s presentation?

If the committee was not informed of these potential conflicts of interest, what are the implications for medical consumers in Israel?

If Israel’s Advisory Committee on Infectious Diseases and Inoculations made recommendations to the Ministry of Health without obtaining satisfactory answers and scientific documentation to the questions above, how can the Ministry of Health be expected to make a sound decision about HPV vaccines in their country?

How can the Ministry of Health in Israel be expected to live up to their obligation to protect the public health if these questions are left unanswered?

Is advice like that given by Professor Dagan similar to that given by other experts regarding HPV vaccines around the world?

If so, how has the vaccination advisory committee in your country responded?

 

 

French translation of this article here.


[1] Official transcript of Israel’s Advisory Committee on Infectious Diseases and Inoculations, Feb 2013

[2] Professor Ron Dagan’s Biography

[3] Conflict of Interest Disclosure for article published in Pediatric Infectious Disease Journal

[4] Conflict of Interest Disclosure for article published in BioMed Central

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Comments

  1. Sandy Lunoe says

    September 9, 2013 at 10:24 am

    Here is just one of the numerous reasons why HPV vaccines should not be given to young girls.

    HPV is NOT necessarily a sexually transmitted infection, a fact which vaccine promoters have ignored. They deliberately chose the most effective strategy to sell the HPV vaccines – by focusing on gigantic groups of young girls and scaremongering about potential cervical cancer.

    According to the promoters it is important that the vaccines should be given before the girls become sexually active, before they become infected with the human papilloma virus. This is extremely misleading information. The human papilloma virus has been found in the placenta, umbilical cord and in young children.

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18972230
    Human papillomavirus in the placenta and umbilical cord blood.

    http://content.karger.com/ProdukteDB/produkte.asp?Doi=24939
    “However, HPV have been detected in asymptomatic women, infants and children. Several studies have demonstrated that infants can acquire high-risk HPV infections from their mothers at birth. Thus, the traditional view that cervical-cancer associated HPV infections are primarily sexually transmitted needs to be re-assessed. Accordingly, the role of mother to child transmission of cancer-associated HPVs may need to be investigated further. These facts are pertinent to those developing prophylactic vaccines to prevent high-risk HPV infections and cervical carcinoma”.

    Reply
    • Allyson McQuinn says

      September 9, 2013 at 5:10 pm

      Thank you for this, Sandy. 7 years ago, I too wrote an article citing that there is no scientifically proven connection between the HPV and Cancer and that the former generally remains asymptomatic. I appreciate that you and other learned folk at SaneVax are working to illuminate this truth. I’m so happy to share this blog article with this community, if it also might be of help to this very unfortunate cause. Warmly, Allyson http://arcanum.ca/2008/01/21/hpv-adverse-reactions-and-what-are-the-options/

      Reply
  2. Roni Relin says

    September 9, 2013 at 2:24 pm

    בתור אזרח מודאג

    ובהתייחס לדברים שאמרת אני באמת רוצה להבין את הדרך שאתה פועל וזה יעזור אם תענה על השאלות הבאות בקשר לחיסון הגרדסיל

    1. האם ידוע לך כיום על נערות בישראל ש”סתם כך” מתעלפות, מפרכסות או מתות?

    2. כיצד אתה כבר יודע מראש שפרכוסים, התעלפויות ופטירות “בשבוע שלאחר החיסון” אינם קשורים לחיסון? על מי אתה מסתמך בקביעה הזו?

    3. האם הגוף שבדק ומצא שאין קשר בין תופעות הלוואי הקשות המדווחות לאחר חיסון ה-HPV, בדק רפואית ופיזית את הנערות הנפגעות או שהסתפק בבדיקה סטטיסטית “יבשה”?

    4. האם אתה טוען שאין בכלל צורך לחקור בעתיד את הקשר לחיסון של מקרי פרכוסים ומוות בשבוע שלאחר החיסון?

    5. במידה ויקרה מצב של פטירה של נערה סמוך לקבלת החיסון, כיצד אתה מציע לחקור את הקשר בין השניים? מה מבחינתך יהווה חקירה יסודית וממצה של הקשר לכאורה בין החיסון ומקרה המוות?

    תודה
    אזרח מודאג

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  3. Paul G. King, PhD says

    September 9, 2013 at 4:28 pm

    Even if the claims of population background incidence were true, such claims do NOT and CANNOT address the risk to a specific individual.

    Thus, all serious adverse events (and, regardless of claims to the contrary, fainting and twitching are serious adverse events) following vaccination (inoculation) should be investigated as a if the vaccine were a causal factor.

    Only when the investigation clearly establishes that the severe adverse event for that individual was definitely caused by some other identified factor and not by the vaccination’s effects on the body of the inoculee can the vaccine be exonerated as a causal factor for that particular inoculee.

    When the vaccine is proven to be, probably is or possibly may be, a causal factor, then that serious adverse event should be classified as a PROVEN, PROBABLE or POSSIBLE vaccination-related serious adverse event.

    When it comes to death following vaccination, there is a growing body of evidence for HPV vaccines that a biochemical brain autopsy of the person looking for tissue binding of the bioactive fragments of the HPV entities is “proof” that the vaccine was a factor in the death.

    However, because “death” is final, all deaths following an HPV vaccination should be classified as death where the HPV vaccine was a PROVEN, PROBABLE or POSSIBLE cause UNLESS: 1) a comprehensive autopsy rules out the vaccine or 2) the death’s cause (a car wreck in which the dead person was a passenger and the driver had not been given an HPV vaccination, for example) is clearly unrelated to the vaccine.

    Those, including the World Health Organization, who attempt to pervert the scientific method (which requires that all possible causes must be accepted as possible UNLESS, for the person being observed, one or more possible causal factors can be ruled out) into “not vaccine related” mantra that should be invoked UNLESS the vaccine is unequivocally proven to be the ONLY causal factor — a view that is non-science based — should be dismissed along with such non-science-based views.

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    • admin says

      September 11, 2013 at 7:42 am

      Thank you, Dr. King. The SaneVax team believes this is exactly how any new medical condition after vaccination should be treated. It would solve a whole lot of heartache for thousands around the globe if your suggestions were the standard of care.

      Reply
  4. Shiv Chopra says

    September 9, 2013 at 10:09 pm

    These same questions aught to be answered by each and every regulatory authority, including the WHO, prior to approving any vaccine.

    Reply
    • admin says

      September 11, 2013 at 7:45 am

      You are absolutely correct. Personally, I would add that each and every one of them should be able to provide scientific documentation to back up their answers.

      Reply
  5. Jennifer says

    September 15, 2013 at 12:12 am

    Thank you for this well-thoughtout and well-written article. I wonder do the citizens of Israel know what this “expert” has said? How he appears to value the vaccine program far more than the vaccine recipients? His words turn my stomach.

    Reply

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    […] Let’s take a recent teleconference held by Israel’s Advisory Committee on Infectious Diseases and Inoculations as a case in point. One of the topics scheduled for discussion at this meeting was the proposed introduction of HPV vaccines into Israel’s school inoculation program targeting 14-year-old girls.[1] […]

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